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Ravenstonedale DNA project

Ravenstonedale DNA project

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the article and data that initiated the Ravenstonedale  project

our project page on the Family Tree DNA website

Results so far ...

As this project grew out of the ADAMTHWAITE surname project, a majority of the results so far are for descendants of the various lines of Adamthwaites that originated in Ravenstonedale.  We are gradually adding results for descendants of other surnames - please contact me if you have already tested with Family Tree DNA and have Ravenstonedale ancestry.  You can join several surname, geographic and haplogroup projects.

Latest yDNA results

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Currently, we have yDNA test results for nine ADAMTHWAITE descendants (representing six different Adamthwaite lines), one FAWCETT descendant, two SWINBANK descendants and three  FOTHERGILL descendants.  

 

All men tested at least 37 markers with Family Tree DNA, however we can include yDNA results in the project from other test companies.

 

You can read more about these results, including information about the Haplogroups represented on this page.

click to open a pdf of the latest results spreadsheet

Family Finder results

We now have 28 sets of Family Finder results within our project - between us we represent a growing number of the old Ravenstonedale families.  We welcome new project members who can provide satisfactory genealogical data showing that they have at least one branch of their ancestry that originated in Ravenstonedale before 1800.

 

Family Finder tests are only expected to reliably demonstrate matches at a distance of five or six generations, so this part of the project is somewhat experimental in nature!  However, our experience within the Adamthwaite surname project has been that distant matches have been identified within AND between different lines, at a closer level than one would expect - we believe these connections are likely to actually be as a result of the many intermarriages between the old Ravenstonedale families.  Several project members have as much as a quarter of their DNA originating in this small corner of north-west England.

 

It is not easy to present the findings in a clear way (the matrix I have been using has become too unwieldy and complicated now the number of Family Finder results has risen beyond 15).   We have used the utilities at Gedmatch to make one-to-one comparisons between sets of results that are too distant to show up on the Family Tree DNA match lists. This diagram shows the results matrix at the end of 2014:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If anyone can come up with a better way of analysing and demonstrating the connections between a growing number of Family Finder results, please do get in touch.

 

Further information about our Family Finder results is available to Project members in the private section of this website.

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Click on the image to open up a pdf file of the matrix.  You will need to use your browser controls to zoom in to around 300% to read the details - it is particularly important that you read the notes and abbreviations to understand what the results are showing!